Re: Hardware TNC (Baycom etc.)

From: Sergej Pryadko (terhi.victor@logonet.com)
Date: Wed Feb 02 2000 - 14:57:58 EET

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    Hello Gerd
    Hello All

    >The second reason is that the SoundModem driver must be considered
    experimental, and
    >is sometimes not easy to set up. Even more, it seems that Thomas's support
    for that
    >driver has slightly vanished. He does not want to enhance tools like smdiag
    or
    >smmixer any more and even starts ranting if someone talks about their
    limitations.
    IMHO for normal adjustment, it is quite enough of this tool.

    >The third reason is that exactly aligning the soundcard is sometimes very
    difficult
    >due to the lack of reliable diagnostic software (smdiag does not work on
    most newer
    >kernels, it is even missing in some of the newest ax25-* packages).
    It is not lack of diagnostic software.
    Do not use development Kernel and (or) development ax25 packages.

    >And, if you finally managed to get some soundcard to decode incoming
    packets, the
    >detection rate is often much worse than with a BayCom in hardware.
    Probably this bug is connected to the device /dev/hands :-)

    >The fourth reason is that the (few) soundcard designs supposed to work with
    >SoundModem are not available any more. That is because ISA cards are
    generally
    >vanishing.
    The incorrect conclusion, too hasty.

    >For PCI cards, there's no SoundModem support available.
    >Here, it sounds a little bit ironic that Thomas Sailer, developer of the
    SoundModem
    >driver, has written the Linux Kernel sound driver
    >(http://www.ife.ee.ethz.ch/~sailer/linux/pciaudio.html) for the Ensoniq
    AudioPCI
    >(http://www.ife.ee.ethz.ch/~sailer/linux/es1370.html) and the S3 SonicVibes
    PCI sound card
    >(http://www.ife.ee.ethz.ch/~sailer/linux/sonicvibes.html)
    >but seems to be too busy to extend SoundModem.
    This devices, yet has no standard. And still question will - whether
    sometime this devices standard.
    When you buy the similar device, it is necessary to think of it.

    >The fifth reason is that if you want to avoid long PTT delays you'll have
    to use one
    >of the parallel or serial ports from the computer to drive PTT. Yes, there
    us also a
    >circuit that uses the MIDI port but a) it looks complicated, compared with
    the
    >circuits for the serial or parallel port or VOX, b) it depends on a correct
    MIDI port
    >setting (in other words, you'll have to make sure it is enabled and not
    working as a
    >joystick port accidentally).
    >
    >The sixth reason is that one can easily have more than one modem of that
    type
    >connected to the computer. But how about two or even more soundcards?
    Besides the
    >problem of not having enough ISA slots on recent mainboards there is the
    problem of
    >confguring them correctly. PCI cards are, unfortunately, not supported yet.
    On my computer work 2 Sound Cards.
    ESS-1868 - AFSK 300bps HF
    SB-16 Vibra - AFSK 1200bps VHF
    Also there is one more free ISA slot.
    Problem with configuring of devices, it not with a problem of the software.

    >> Now there is a new hardware design using a new chip that
    >> reportedly replaces the TI chip.
    >>
    >> Am I missing something here? Is there a significant
    >> advantage to using such an approach over using a soundcard?
    >
    >I mentioned six reasons. Maybe, there are even more.
    IMHO these reasons in the greater degree are taken from the device /dev/null

    Best regards
    Serge, rz6hff



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